beauty is the only dimension of identity crisis in gals ?

[simple soul]

beauty is the only dimension of identity crisis in gals ? Environment is conditioning them to satisfy thier identity crisis only through "some how" getting them selves idenfied as 'beautiful'. Most gals give-in to this conditioning, repercussions are ....

[san]

What are the repercussions?



*Holding my breadth*



Anyway, people change all the time. At some point or the other people may go through a phase of wanting to be identified as "beautiful".

[akhilis2cool]

beauty is the only dimension of identity crisis in gals ? Environment is conditioning them to satisfy thier identity crisis only through "some how" getting them selves idenfied as 'beautiful'. Most gals give-in to this conditioning, repercussions are ....

booming profits of the cosmetics manufacturers...

[CtrlAltDel]

why wud the girls want to make themselves beautiful...?



it is for us males....wud u date an ugly or plain looking girl...?

[san]

why wud the girls want to make themselves beautiful...?

it is for us males....wud u date an ugly or plain looking girl...?

u would if u were despo



cliched as it may sound, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. how else would you explain the union of - let's call them Madhuri and Sanjay? Madhuri is quite scary actually whilst Sanjay does not lack in any dept. There was the whole face-the-parents scene which he patiently handled. To end the story, both have been happily married for the last 8 years. Bless em! Just as well they opted not to have kids. They could have turned out ugly but not so lucky.

[CtrlAltDel]

beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

...or the 'beerholder' as someone here said long ago!

how else would you explain the union of - let's call them Madhuri and Sanjay? Madhuri is quite scary actually whilst Sanjay does not lack in any dept. There was the whole face-the-parents scene which he patiently handled. To end the story, both have been happily married for the last 8 years. Bless em! Just as well they opted not to have kids. They could have turned out ugly but not so lucky.

who r u talking abt? which Madhuri? only Madhuri i know is Madhuri Dixit-Nene and dont u dare call her scary....

[wisecrack]

Well...Dint some wise soul say that "Beauty is skin deep"?Yeah ..they get their facelifts done,use botox to make their faces wrinkle-free...Good for them! The repercussions...I think there's nothing wrong in being beautiful or wanting to be beautiful.Looking good ,does infact make you feel good.But it wud be nice if people start giving importance to "Inner Beauty" as well..

[CtrlAltDel]

...it wud be nice if people start giving importance to "Inner Beauty" as well..

most do...when it comes to marriage and a fat dowry....

[Bimbette]

Saw Congeniality-Part 2 the other day. There was this dialogue 'People care about people who care about themselves'. In other words if you make that little effort to look good, u definitely are noticed. I'd agree with ppl on this DB when they say there's no harm in trying to look good. As long as you can carry it off, I think every girl should put in that wee bit of effort to look presentable or more than that as the case may be.



For many(read men), its just about the looks. Blame it on a bad coincidence, but I've met quite a few blokes/friends in recent times who think that a girl's looks make a helluva difference. I know its a guy's prerogative but I find the whole thing really superficial.



Where's the breed that appreciates you for what you are and not for how you look ?

[CtrlAltDel]

Where's the breed that appreciates you for what you are and not for how you look ?

that "breed" is usually called a "Parent"...

[mark]

Saw Congeniality-Part 2 the other day. There was this dialogue 'People care about people who care about themselves'. In other words if you make that little effort to look good, u definitely are noticed. I'd agree with ppl on this DB when they say there's no harm in trying to look good. As long as you can carry it off, I think every girl should put in that wee bit of effort to look presentable or more than that as the case may be.

For many(read men), its just about the looks. Blame it on a bad coincidence, but I've met quite a few blokes/friends in recent times who think that a girl's looks make a helluva difference. I know its a guy's prerogative but I find the whole thing really superficial.

Where's the breed that appreciates you for what you are and not for how you look ?

well in theory i'd prefer a girl with a nicely shaped mind than a nicely shaped rear end, but in practice if given the choice between a girl with a moderately nice mind and ordinary looks and a girl with a wonderful mind who happens to weigh 40 stone and look like an extra from star trek i'd most likely opt for the normal girl. however i think most men have a much more complicated decision making process when it comes to women, if presented with a potential match we feed information into our brains, "something" happens, and the vibes we get from that determine to outcome. or something.

[CtrlAltDel]

...most men have a much more complicated decision making process when it comes to women, if presented with a potential match we feed information into our brains, "something" happens, and the vibes we get from that determine to outcome. or something.

well said mark!

[Betty]

Soemwhat my fav topic, but I can argue on both sides, so just pasting something isntead...

This is a very amusing piece which I got forwarded in a mail, somehwat related to this topic:

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Beauty and the beast



BY DAVE BARRY



If you're a man, at some point a woman will ask you

how she looks.





''How do I look?'' she'll ask.





You must be careful how you answer this question. The

best technique is to form an honest yet sensitive

opinion, then collapse on the floor with some kind of

fatal seizure. Trust me, this is the easiest way out.

Because you will never come up with the right answer.





The problem is that women generally do not think of

their looks in the same way that men do. Most men form

an opinion of how they look in seventh grade, and they

stick to it for the rest of their lives. Some men form

the opinion that they are irresistible stud muffins,

and they do not change this opinion even when their

faces sag and their noses bloat to the size of

eggplants and their eyebrows grow together to form

what appears to be a giant forehead-dwelling tropical

caterpillar.





Most men, I believe, think of themselves as

average-looking. Men will think this even if their

faces cause heart failure in cattle at a range of 300

yards. Being average does not bother them; average is

fine, for men. This is why men never ask anybody how

they look. Their primary form of beauty care is to

shave themselves, which is essentially the same form

of beauty care that they give to their lawns.





If, at the end of his four-minute daily beauty

regimen, a man has managed to wipe most of the shaving

cream out of his hair and is not bleeding too badly,

he feels that he has done all he can, so he stops

thinking about his appearance and devotes his mind to

more critical issues, such as the Super Bowl.





Women do not look at themselves this way. If I had to

express, in three words, what I believe most women

think about their appearance, those words would be:

''not good enough.'' No matter how attractive a woman

may appear to be to others, when she looks at herself

in the mirror, she thinks: woof.





She thinks that at any moment a municipal

animal-control officer is going to throw a net over

her and haul her off to the shelter.





Why do women have such low self-esteem? There are many

complex psychological and societal reasons, by which I

mean Barbie. Girls grow up playing with a doll

proportioned such that, if it were a human, it would

be seven feet tall and weigh 81 pounds, of which 53

pounds would be bosoms.





This is a difficult appearance standard to live up to,

especially when you contrast it with the standard set

for little boys by their dolls ... excuse me, by their

action figures. Most of the action figures that my son

played with when he was little were hideous-looking.

For example, he was very fond of an action figure

(part of the He-Man series) called ''Buzz-Off,'' who

was part human, part flying insect. Buzz-Off was not a

looker. But he was extremely self-confident. You could

not imagine Buzz-Off saying to the other action

figures: ``Do you think these wings make my hips look

big?''





But women grow up thinking they need to look like

Barbie, which for most women is impossible, although

there is a multibillion-dollar beauty industry devoted

to convincing women that they must try. I once saw an

Oprah show wherein supermodel Cindy Crawford dispensed

makeup tips to the studio audience. Cindy had all

these middle-aged women applying beauty products to

their faces; she stressed how important it was to

apply them in a certain way, using the tips of their

fingers. All the woman dutifully did this, even though

it was obvious to any sane observer that, no matter

how carefully they applied these products, they would

never look remotely like Cindy Crawford, who is some

kind of genetic mutation.





I'm not saying that men are superior. I'm just saying

that you're not going to get a group of middle-aged

men to sit in a room and apply cosmetics to themselves

under the instruction of Brad Pitt, in hopes of

looking more like him. Men would realize that this

task was pointless and demeaning. They would find some

way to bolster their self-esteem that did not require

looking like Brad Pitt. They would say to Brad: ``Oh

YEAH? Well what do you know about LAWN CARE, pretty

boy?''





Of course, many women will argue that the reason they

become obsessed with trying to look like Cindy

Crawford is that men, being as shallow as a drop of

spit, WANT women to look that way. To which I have two

responses:





1. Hey, just because WE'RE idiots, that doesn't mean

YOU have to be; and





2. Men don't even notice 97 percent of the beauty

efforts you make anyway. Take fingernails. The average

woman spends 5,000 hours per year worrying about her

fingernails; I have never once, in more than 40 years

of listening to men talk about women, heard a man say,

''She has a nice set of fingernails!'' Many men would

not notice if a woman had upward of four hands.





Anyway, to get back to my original point: If you're a

man, and a woman asks you how she looks, you're in big

trouble. Obviously, you can't say she looks bad. But

you also can't say that she looks great, because

she'll think you're lying, because she has spent

countless hours, with the help of the

multibillion-dollar beauty industry, obsessing about

the differences between herself and Cindy Crawford.

Also, she suspects that you're not qualified to judge

anybody's appearance. This is because you have shaving

cream in your hair.

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[san]

but it's minority who are obsessed. how many women do u know who spend hours in front of the mirror?

[Lucifer]

I always believed that I was a shallow guy when it concerned the people I wanted to be seen with - that concerns both men and women. Over the last o ne year or so, I have come to the shocking reaslisation that I am still shallow. Just that I am much more shallow than I previously thought. And that appalls me.



No, I do not care about how a woman looks anymore. Today, the only parameter that I use to judge a woman is her mental acumen. And her feet. I do not think I have a foot fetish. But I cannot stand women with cracked heals or unkempt nails, especially when they don sandals. That is like so eww! In fact, my first glance to a woman is not at her face. I see her feet first. Why? Because we all take care to make our faces look presentable. Feet is what we tend to ignore. And if a woman takes care of her feet it means that she is not superficial. She wants to look deeper.



In whatever time I have spent on this planet, I am yet to come across an intelligent woman with bad feet. So, yes, feet are a measure of a woman's intelligence, conversational abilities, and her personality. And, suprisingly, that is what matters to me.



Really, I think this is being shallow on a whole new plane. But that is just me. I cannot be with a dumb hottie (read Aishwarya Rai, who I do not even find hot but since that is the popular perception let us consider her hot) for even a minute without swallowing my barf twice. But if a woman has the charm of Sushmita Sen (not necessarily her beauty) I could even want to marry her.

[Betty]

but it's minority who are obsessed. how many women do u know who spend hours in front of the mirror?

Ah well, women may not spend hours in front of the mirror, but that does not mean that they are not obsessed by their looks...or maybe the more appropriate way to put it is, women are usually a little insecured about their looks.

Now whether that has got to do with their perception of what attracts men or whether it is because of the way they are brought up...is something that is not very clear.

But what is pretty clear is that it has nothing to do with a 'identity crisis' as stated in the subject of this thread. Even women who have their own identity, might want to be more beautiful than what they think themselves to be...

According to me, when anyone - man or woman, wants to be more beautiful just because he/she wants to love his/her image in the mirror and not because someone told him/her to do so, i.e. when you want to be beautiful for yourself and not to please others, it is always a great thing to do.

And yes, to agree with lucifer, most people who groom themselves so that they feel better when they survey themselves, always pay attention to their feet too...

[Vishrasayan]

'People care about people who care about themselves'

I go with the above statement completely - you can't be a plain Jassi with outdated spectacles, forgotten braces, a brazen frill & go about moaning that nobody sees the inner beauty ?!!



The best of the products in the world wouldn't be sold if they were packaged badly ! - this is the same and it holds good for either sex !



I would say beauty is some thing you need to be borne with but anybody can turn out to be attractive & yes for most people attractive is just fine !



strive to be better at everything - your looks, your attitude, your relations, your work.... you'll only enjoy life better !

[SeH]

This is from my side....

"For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it."

[Ar!e$]

This is from my side....
"For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it."

that was v nice...SeH

[virgin_mary]

BEAUTY,of whatever kind,invariably excites the human soul to tears.....