do we need a seperation of AP

[True Hyderabadi]

Sud
Registered User





Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:38 pm Post Subject: Separate State

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I have been reading numerous articles on the need for Telengana state and the comments abt coastal Andhra people taking away everything from telengana.I have my origins from Telengana though I have stayed out of AP for most of my years.The most important issue for people of Telengana is that they need to change their mindset.Most of them have not seen beyond Hyd or so called Telengana region and therefore all kinds of sillycomments are written in the manner we saw on our discussion boards
If you ask any house owner in Hyd who wants to rent his place, he will prefer Coastal Andhra people to that of Telengana anytime.Do you know why? Telengana people just cant keep their commitments, are known for cheating especially in money matters.
There is a huge difference in the way Andhra people conduct themselves and Telengana people do, in case of Telengana people they come across as ill educated, rough and having highly displeasing mannerisms(remember I am not saying all Telegana people, I mean the general public).
Any day people from Coastal regions are much better educated, much more hardworking and definitely more sincere than Telengana people. You can look at the Employed people,Doctors,Business Owners etc, Coastal people have made their mark everywhere due to their individual hardwork and efforts.
While I was traveling some days back, I met a group of Business people(mainly Marwaris and Gujratis) who were settled in hyd for abt 30years and it was their unanimous opinion that Telengana people are lazy and not at all trustworthy.This has come from their experience.They have their associates in coastal Andhra who don’t have any trouble with the local public.
If you travel by train anywhere in AP,the facilities provided in stations at Coastal Andhra are far better anyday than that of Telengana.
Telengana people should take lessons from Coastal Andhra people as to how they have made their mark in various sectors in Hyd-like Govt Jobs, Software field, Business,Other Professions etc.I think by asking for a separate state they just want to avoid their own weaknesses, so it is better to even improve now.
Other important thing is that Hyderabad as a city came to limelight just because of the work by CBN just like Telugu people got some identity due to NTR.People from Coastal regions have a major role in the development of Hyd, let us not ignore this fact.If you go outside AP,people laugh at the foolish way in which our politicians quarrel in public abt this statehood issue.If you have a separate state , you will have a much bigger problem in all scenarios given the quality of people we have in politicians and the local Telengana public.
Another objectionable idea is to drive Coastal Andhrapeople out of Hyd if Telengana is formed.To all such fools let them be reminded that as an Indian I can stay anywhere in the country and no one can order me where to stay.
My advice to people participating in the discussion and at a broader audience is to try and avoid unnecessary jingoism,strive hard in whatever you do, get educated and think rationally without falling prey to the useless talk of stupid politicians (BTW, we had more CMs from Telengana but what did they do for the region?).
We have much more pressings problems in our lives in all spheres, let us try to solve them rather than keep dividing the country into weaker states and entertain regional feelings and hatred towards one another.

Mr.. Sud though once u belonged (born) to Telangana u don't stay in Telangana and with ur post its clear that you have no idea bout Telangana /Telangana People and their Problems..





Telangana People were negelected by the Nizams Before their freedom and Andhra (Telugu) rulers..Cm's did nothing for Telangana People..



Just go to the villages of Telengana.. you don't find pure water to drink..People Work hard to get atleast one meal a day..



most of the people are uneducated.. they don't enjoy their rights...

they are dominated by some group of people in villages and these people see that no Economically Backward familiy come up in their life..



all those who became Chief ministers of AP were from some other regions of Ap But not Telangana.. though some the telangana people were given ministries..they were puppets in the hands of other People....



You all People say that HYDERABAD is the most developed city in AP.. and you show it as the symbol of Development in Telangana region....



but most of the people living in hyderabad are not True Hyderabadi's /Telangana people ..they came from other regions of AP/India and got settled in HYD....they became the richest people of HYD..



Still most of the HYD's /Telangana PPl living in HYD are below Poverty level....

these true hyderabadi's hardly go to Big Shoping malls/Imax's/Night Club's ect..



you just come to Old city to find the True life Style of True Hyderabadi's /Telangana People..



New Hyderabad is Polluted by the non-hyderabadi people who got settled in hyderabad....





the only way to protect True Hyderabad/Telangana Culture is by geting rid of the Non-Hyderabadi's who got settled in HYD.. or else the Non-hyderabadis must get Marraied to the Hyderabadi/Telangana People to get permission to live in Hyd/Telangana so that we bring some kind of Economic Equality and Oneness among the People of AP

[True Hyderabadi]

Sud
Registered User





Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:38 pm Post Subject: Separate State

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I have been reading numerous articles on the need for Telengana state and the comments abt coastal Andhra people taking away everything from telengana.I have my origins from Telengana though I have stayed out of AP for most of my years.The most important issue for people of Telengana is that they need to change their mindset.Most of them have not seen beyond Hyd or so called Telengana region and therefore all kinds of sillycomments are written in the manner we saw on our discussion boards
If you ask any house owner in Hyd who wants to rent his place, he will prefer Coastal Andhra people to that of Telengana anytime.Do you know why? Telengana people just cant keep their commitments, are known for cheating especially in money matters.
There is a huge difference in the way Andhra people conduct themselves and Telengana people do, in case of Telengana people they come across as ill educated, rough and having highly displeasing mannerisms(remember I am not saying all Telegana people, I mean the general public).
Any day people from Coastal regions are much better educated, much more hardworking and definitely more sincere than Telengana people. You can look at the Employed people,Doctors,Business Owners etc, Coastal people have made their mark everywhere due to their individual hardwork and efforts.
While I was traveling some days back, I met a group of Business people(mainly Marwaris and Gujratis) who were settled in hyd for abt 30years and it was their unanimous opinion that Telengana people are lazy and not at all trustworthy.This has come from their experience.They have their associates in coastal Andhra who don’t have any trouble with the local public.
If you travel by train anywhere in AP,the facilities provided in stations at Coastal Andhra are far better anyday than that of Telengana.
Telengana people should take lessons from Coastal Andhra people as to how they have made their mark in various sectors in Hyd-like Govt Jobs, Software field, Business,Other Professions etc.I think by asking for a separate state they just want to avoid their own weaknesses, so it is better to even improve now.
Other important thing is that Hyderabad as a city came to limelight just because of the work by CBN just like Telugu people got some identity due to NTR.People from Coastal regions have a major role in the development of Hyd, let us not ignore this fact.If you go outside AP,people laugh at the foolish way in which our politicians quarrel in public abt this statehood issue.If you have a separate state , you will have a much bigger problem in all scenarios given the quality of people we have in politicians and the local Telengana public.
Another objectionable idea is to drive Coastal Andhrapeople out of Hyd if Telengana is formed.To all such fools let them be reminded that as an Indian I can stay anywhere in the country and no one can order me where to stay.
My advice to people participating in the discussion and at a broader audience is to try and avoid unnecessary jingoism,strive hard in whatever you do, get educated and think rationally without falling prey to the useless talk of stupid politicians (BTW, we had more CMs from Telengana but what did they do for the region?).
We have much more pressings problems in our lives in all spheres, let us try to solve them rather than keep dividing the country into weaker states and entertain regional feelings and hatred towards one another.

Mr.. Sud though once u belonged (born) to Telangana u don't stay in Telangana and with ur post its clear that you have no idea bout Telangana /Telangana People and their Problems..





Telangana People were negelected by the Nizams Before their freedom and Andhra (Telugu) rulers..Cm's did nothing for Telangana People..



Just go to the villages of Telengana.. you don't find pure water to drink..People Work hard to get atleast one meal a day..



most of the people are uneducated.. they don't enjoy their rights...

they are dominated by some group of people in villages and these people see that no Economically Backward familiy come up in their life..



all those who became Chief ministers of AP were from some other regions of Ap But not Telangana.. though some the telangana people were given ministries..they were puppets in the hands of other People....



You all People say that HYDERABAD is the most developed city in AP.. and you show it as the symbol of Development in Telangana region....



but most of the people living in hyderabad are not True Hyderabadi's /Telangana people ..they came from other regions of AP/India and got settled in HYD....they became the richest people of HYD..



Still most of the HYD's /Telangana PPl living in HYD are below Poverty level....

these true hyderabadi's hardly go to Big Shoping malls/Imax's/Night Club's ect..



you just come to Old city to find the True life Style of True Hyderabadi's /Telangana People..



New Hyderabad is Polluted by the non-hyderabadi people who got settled in hyderabad....





the only way to protect True Hyderabad/Telangana Culture is by geting rid of the Non-Hyderabadi's who got settled in HYD.. or else the Non-hyderabadis must get Marraied to the Hyderabadi/Telangana People to get permission to live in Hyd/Telangana so that we bring some kind of Economic Equality and Oneness among the People of AP

[CtrlAltDel]

Hyderabad tere baap ka property hai kya?

[Sri]

Dear Mr Sud,

While I was traveling some days back, I met a group of Business people(mainly Marwaris and Gujratis) who were settled in hyd for abt 30years and it was their unanimous opinion that Telengana people are lazy and not at all trustworthy.This has come from their experience

Comment:It is extremely sad that you are quoating the "blood eating Marwaris" for your topic.
They are the main enemies of the southern states. They came here, started as the pawn brokers, slowly sucked the blood all poor section of South Indian community.

My advice to people participating in the discussion and at a broader audience is to try and avoid unnecessary jingoism,strive hard in whatever you do, get educated and think rationally without falling prey to the useless talk of stupid politicians

Comment:I accept this point 100%

Just go to the villages of Telengana.. you don't find pure water to drink..People Work hard to get atleast one meal a day..

Comment:This is true. I have seen and experienced as a medico.

[Sri]

Dear Mr Sud,

While I was traveling some days back, I met a group of Business people(mainly Marwaris and Gujratis) who were settled in hyd for abt 30years and it was their unanimous opinion that Telengana people are lazy and not at all trustworthy.This has come from their experience

Comment:It is extremely sad that you are quoating the "blood eating Marwaris" for your topic.
They are the main enemies of the southern states. They came here, started as the pawn brokers, slowly sucked the blood all poor section of South Indian community.

My advice to people participating in the discussion and at a broader audience is to try and avoid unnecessary jingoism,strive hard in whatever you do, get educated and think rationally without falling prey to the useless talk of stupid politicians

Comment:I accept this point 100%

Just go to the villages of Telengana.. you don't find pure water to drink..People Work hard to get atleast one meal a day..

Comment:This is true. I have seen and experienced as a medico.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

New Hyderabad is Polluted by the non-hyderabadi people who got settled in hyderabad....

You mean to say that a Bajaj chetak owned by a non-Telanaga person is more polluting than a Bajaja Chetak Owned by a Telanaga person? Or, aare you saying that all Telangana born people are just beggars and not one person can afford a smoke belching automobile?



You also claim that Telangana made no contribution to Hyderabad and its growth is a result of "outsiders", then what is your claim to Hyderabad? Shouldn't you all just leave Hyderabad and crawl back to whatever dark caves you came out of? bloody parasites you are... trying to grab the fruits of "outsiders" who spent years developing hyderabad.

[KCR]

New Hyderabad is Polluted by the non-hyderabadi people who got settled in hyderabad....

trying to grab the fruits of "outsiders" who spent years developing hyderabad.

Oh really!!!look who is talking the Andhrite settled in Hyderabad, you stinking Andhrites came and settled down in Hyderabad and left your barren lands to develop Hyderabad!!!this is the biggets lie I have ever heard so far in the year 2006..



You Andhrites came to Hyderabad becuase Hyderabad offered you much more than what the barren Andhra region offered you,you are the real beggars ,how dare you call the Telangas beggars ,Emi Kushavu Ra Bhosdigay, I bet you wont understand that .....



And I agree with Sri's comment about the Madwadis being the blodd sucking people in Hyderabad and south India ,yes they are main reason behind the exploitation of the humble and naive people of Telangana along with the Andhrites who use Telangana as an Indian NRI would use America make the most of it without giving anything back to America.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Lol... Hyderabad tere baap ka nahi hai bey chutiye. Yourself claimed that you guys are good for nothing losers. And your contribution to Hyderabad is zilch, nada, soonya except for the fact that it is in Telangana region geographically. Hyderabad would have been hyderabad whether it is in Telangana, Andhra or Rayalseems.

In my opinion all you beggars should be kicked out of hyderabad (not just hyderabad, but all other states, countries that you vermin have spread to) and Hyderabad should be made a Union territory. At the same time a seperate telangana should be created so that you losers stew in your own filth and do not drag the rest of the state down with you on human development index.



**Sincere apologies to all the telanganites for clubbing you with vermin like the above two.

[KCR]

Gandu, tum kya bolay ray tum salay!!!



I think you should better go to Andhra and milk your buffaloes there(if you know what you mean) instead of polluting Telangana with your rotten filth in unproportional quantities , you bloody parasites wherever to migrate to you Andhrites you suck the blood out of that place, you ahave already made Andhra barren now you want to make Telangana your home you subhumans with parasitical qualities...



Is your Andhrite head stuck in your ass to not see the writing on the wall that you parasites of Humans Andhrites should leave Telangana and stop coming in hordes from your barren territory of Andhra and keep multiplying there.



Telangana Vardhillali...TRS Amar hai, Andhrites Kaburdar..

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Lol... keep shouting those slogans. The Andhrites are here and you will be kicked out of Hyderabad. Scarry innit?

[CtrlAltDel]

...TRS Amar hai...

:lol:



looks like he has already decided that TRS is as good as dead

[Sri]

It is very unfortunate that a active war has started between Telenganites and Mainland Andhrites.

I dont know, how the people speaking the same language and belong to the the same race develope deep grudges.

I have no idea about the deep roots behind this. But I know the situation in Telengana is pathetic.



There are vast, dry, barren uncultivated lands over many parts of Telengana.



When we went for the project, I saw so many poor Telugu speaking people in pathetic conditions.



Well this is the condition holds good for Marwaris.

They slowly and carefully access the situation.

Just like the Vultures roam around the DEAD BODIES.

The Marwaris slowly lend them money.

Initially they suffer for a loss or act so.

Then they start slowly GRAB the lands which is the unscientific and unaccepted thing.

They slowly become the masters.

They abuse our language, our food, our dress, our simple habits in Public places.

They even engage uneducated street rowdies for their favour.

They even engage minor politicians.



I will tell you, that after 50- 100 years period, they are going to be the rulers/ king makers of whole south.



I am seeing the huge interest shown by all marwadis and their neighbours for mass migration and then for looting the south.



Gone are the days we fought for freedom from the Britishers.

I will tell you the time will come, may be in the next 100 years for getting freedom from this marwadis.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Bloody Hypocrite you are, sri. Whats the difference between you and the KCR dude?

[KCR]

Bloody Hypocrite you are, sri. Whats the difference between you and the KCR dude?

Bloody _ hypocrite and traitor are you you Andhrite , your affinity and solidarity towards marwaris doesnt surprise me , becuase you Andhrites are always looking up to Marwaris and try to be freinds with them and SUCK their *** in order to gain their favour.



What surpises me is your longing to associate with Marwaris ,littel do you know that they hate you and everyother South India, I have even heard of them talking to Amrericans here that they are completely different from South Indians that its a different race , I have seen them team up with Pakistanis to make fun of South Indinas you Ass H0le , go suck their little weenies you son of a Marwari DCIK from a torn rubber..



_ you and other Andhrites and their Marwari Idols..._ _ _....

[Mayavi Morpheus]

I have even heard of them talking to Amrericans here....

Well well well, what have we got here... what is a proud telangana bidda doing in America??? What a surpirse... you dont like "outsiders" come to telangana for their daily bread but the same time you sit in america leeching off their wealth??



As for marwaris, I think they are more patriotic than leechers like you. I like them as fellow indians more than I like a regionalistic bastard like you. If it were upto me, I would have every seperatist telanganite be shot the moment they step out of their hollow land. You people are a burden on the nations resources.

[Berserk HP]

It is very unfortunate that a active war has started between Telenganites and Mainland Andhrites.

WTF do you mean by "Mainland Andhrites"? Isn't Telangana a part of the mainland too? And talking of the "war", your likes are to blame the most. You'll know how as you read along.

I have no idea about the deep roots behind this. But I know the situation in Telengana is pathetic.

So is it in many other parts of the country. But do you think that alone qualifies for breaking a state? If you think that a smaller state can help in development, how would you explain the lack of development in the north east?

There are vast, dry, barren uncultivated lands over many parts of Telengana.

Ever heard of a place called Rajasthan? Or maybe Kutchh? The people there are among the most prosperous in the country today.

When we went for the project, I saw so many poor Telugu speaking people in pathetic conditions.

Do you mean to say you didn't bother to look at the non-telugu speaking people in the area? How about the migrant labour from Orissa and Bihar? Were they staying in palatial bunglows and moving around in jaguars? Needless discrimination. Point 1 why I feel your likes are responsible for the rut.

Well this is the condition holds good for Marwaris.
They slowly and carefully access the situation.
Just like the Vultures roam around the DEAD BODIES.
The Marwaris slowly lend them money.
Initially they suffer for a loss or act so.
Then they start slowly GRAB the lands which is the unscientific and unaccepted thing.

Hmmm....Are all marwaris money lenders? Or are all money lenders marwaris? How do you explain the microfinance institutions recently in he news for all wrong reasons? Aren't they backed by NRI's from the state? Talking about unscientific and unacceptable, its true. But then your ire should be directed at money lenders and not marwaris. Needless discrimination again...and also unacceptable generalisation. Point 2.

They slowly become the masters.
They abuse our language, our food, our dress, our simple habits in Public places.

There's something called as learning from past mistakes and others' mistakes. And there's also something called enterprise. Have you heard about an organisation called SEWA (Self Employed Women's Association)? Started by a gutsy lady called Ela Bhatt, this Gujarat based NGO has freed thousands of women all over Gujarat from the clutches of money lenders and has made them self-reliant. All this in a matter of just a couple of decades. I'm sure NGO's would be working with such ideas in Telangana too. But how many have been successful. What has been the success rate of the much touted Self Help Groups? Shows how open the people themselves are interested in coming out of the rut they are in.

And mind you, marwaris would never be ones to ridicule their place of domicile. They blend into the local culture better than any other community in the country. A marwari in Kolkata would be more bengali than the bhadralok. And a marwari in Chennai would be more tamil than an iyengar. I can vouch for that as I've stayed in many places and have seen the civic behaviour of marwaris everywhere. Baseless mudslinging. Point 3.

They even engage uneducated street rowdies for their favour.
They even engage minor politicians.

Again....something that's not restricted to the members of a single community. Baseless generalisation and mud-slinging.

I will tell you, that after 50- 100 years period, they are going to be the rulers/ king makers of whole south.

I am seeing the huge interest shown by all marwadis and their neighbours for mass migration and then for looting the south.

Gone are the days we fought for freedom from the Britishers.
I will tell you the time will come, may be in the next 100 years for getting freedom from this marwadis.

You should be charged with sedition for having said this. Every Indian has a right to move freely in any part of India (except for parts of J & K and parts of the north-east), settle there and earn a livelihood for himself in any way he likes as long as he's not breaking any law. And I've been controlling my itch to say this to you for so long now...but I won't any longer. You are one unpatriotic s-o-b. And I'm gonna kill you if I ever lay my hands on you.



And I know I'm hitting you below the belt with this, but you more than called for it. It seems you're more than inspired by Hitler's hatred for jews. I can see similarities in the reasons for the dislike in your posts. But let me tell you something else about your closet idol. He also didn't like people with abnormal sexualities.

[HH]

Real FireWords! ... Words May Not Nreak Bones ... Fire "Loves" / "Hates" ALL!

[Sri]

Bloody _ hypocrite and traitor are

First listen, When somebody is not using bad language, you should follow it too.

I have seen them team up with Pakistanis

This is a well known fact , thay you bastards are the real antinationals.

[Sri]

And I'm gonna kill you if I ever lay my hands on you

Filthy guy like you is a perfect example for the idiotic violence.



Leave your AK-47.



LEARN TO BE POLITE.



Live peacefully and leave us peacefully

[Miffed HP]

And I'm gonna kill you if I ever lay my hands on you

Filthy guy like you is a perfect example for the idiotic violence.

Leave your AK-47.

LEARN TO BE POLITE.

Live peacefully and leave us peacefully

Correction...If I do come across you, I am sure to get violent. And the violence would not be idiotic or without reason. It would be my reaction to all the separatist and anti-national crap that you have been dishing out on these forums. And I too believe in a peaceful life, but your utterances are not something that would help keep peace.

[parinda]

And I'm gonna kill you if I ever lay my hands on you

Filthy guy like you is a perfect example for the idiotic violence.

Leave your AK-47.

LEARN TO BE POLITE.

Live peacefully and leave us peacefully

Correction...If I do come across you, I am sure to get violent. And the violence would not be idiotic or without reason. It would be my reaction to all the separatist and anti-national crap that you have been dishing out on these forums. And I too believe in a peaceful life, but your utterances are not something that would help keep peace.

You wanto KILL Sri becuase his point of view is different from yours, if thats the case then I would like to extend your logic to kill all th epeople who voted for TRS, or for that matter anyone who has an issue with how Marwaris deal with the local populace, becuase of yor yearning to associate with the MArwaris..way to go man what do you think you how many people will you end up killing ..and you say that you are a peaceful person..



P.S How are the RSS shakhas going along.

[CtrlAltDel]

...kill all th epeople who voted for TRS...

not a baad idea

...How are the RSS shakhas going along.

definitely not as active as your local al-qaeda/LeT cell. are u the new leader now that yr former boss yezdani got bumped off n buried?

[Krisk]

Yes.



If you look at the last 50 yrs, cities which have developed are those which are capitals, or trade centres or railway junctions. There are others but, these three categories make sure of a huge floating population, movement of goods, and corruption monies.



Based on this experience, if telangana is made a separate state, a new capital is made, Kurnool for Andhra, and HYd for Telangana, which will allow people of telengana to go for big railway junctions and trade centres.



Small states make for easier management and accomodates more politicians who are many in our country.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Based on this experience, if telangana is made a separate state, a new capital is made, Kurnool for Andhra, and HYd for Telangana, which will allow people of telengana to go for big railway junctions and trade centres.

If Telanagna region had scope to develop new trade centers, it would have done so already. A new polticial boundary is not going to attract trade. In a new Andhra state, Vijayawada and Vizag are going to become big as they will attract a major chunk of the investments which are currently being pumped into Hyderabad.

Secondly, the whole reason why we should not have too small a states are because most of the tax would go into administration and not into actual public welfare projects. To understand this, it costs 20 lakhs a day to have parliament in session. If there are two parliaments, it will cost double for the same work!

The point which everyone is missing is, how is a new political boundary going ot ensure development of the telangane region? No one so far has managed to answer this question except with rhetoric against andhras, marwaris and everybody else. The non-telanganites who are taking up jobs and businesses in Hyderabad are not the reason for drought and naxal problems in Adilabad and no one seems to have figured it out.

The only thing that a seperate telangana state will ensure is a new assembly,a cabinet, a new chopper for the CM and the assorted expediture and nothing else.

[CtrlAltDel]

The only thing that a seperate telangana state will ensure is a new assembly,a cabinet, a new chopper for the CM and the assorted expediture and nothing else.

well said, Mayavi