Silent Scream

[CtrlAltDel]

ctrl bhayi, dekhonaa, aapki reply. What you said. Read it again. If you do not understand my view point, Read it again. If not now, then may be later, whenever you are ready to understand it. I rest my case

sorry yaar, i dont get it. i read my post twice, as well as yours. i still dont understand what u r refering to...any clue/hint?

[Jaszalcatraz]

Ditto

and btw ranu.......are u for real or are you another figment of MM's imagination? I have proof(sorta) that ranu doesnt exist.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

[akhilis2cool]

then what? ask her to have the child and face lifelong trauma? condemn her for having sex? the guys usually go scotfree in most cases, coz they r in no danger of becoming pregnant!

u obviously dont expect the girls to be mentally strong enough to handle the consequences of the acts done by them that with there agreement. killing the unborn for ur 'mistake' ......good....carry on.

as mayavi said foetus in first 3 months is just a growing mass of cells. its medically not considered a human.

a mass of cells.....hmmm....arent the bodies of grownups full of cells.....arent cells suppsed to be keeping us alive? then how come a mass of cells doesnt have life in it?

the woman and the doctor. the woman has the right to decide if she wants to continue with the pregnancy or not

considering that most of the girls go for abortion fearing the world and the trauma, thats what u`ve said, instead of facing the consequences of there actions I say the girl has no right what so ever to decide the fate of the unborn just because she is afraid of being traumatised. the girl obviously lacks the mental strength to face the world....the facts that things like these happen also in countries like america is very dissappointing.

no mother easily takes a decision to abort. its a painful and traumatic decision. half her heart wud be with her developing child. if and when its taken, its usually the last resort when no other option is available.

what are the options available for a girl in this situation.....if she choses to abort he child she will suffer trauma for the rest of her life....if she keeps it and is able to defend her stance then there is no reason for the world to not accept her. if she marrys the guy then well enuf.....

abortion is not abuse. if u feel so, its your problem.

ending life of an unborn is not an abuse?...even when it is a bunch of cells...arent u stopping it from being born??????? the bunch of cells stage is only one of the stages of its evolution which every person goes thru....how do u expect life to be absent at that stage???

wud u encourage your brother or a close male relative to marry an unwed girl who has become pregnant, had delivered the baby and given it for adoption? even if its ok with u, society is not yet ready for that. till that time abortions will happen.

society is made by the people who are a part of it....ending the life of an unbron child just b`coz some people arond u dont accept it is stupid....

speaking of unwanted children, those kids are usually labeled bastards and taunted bo society. is that ok? is that a great life the kid is having? what if they are not adopted for some reason? is that ok too?

put ur self in the society....would u taunt the kids????? was it in any way there mistake/or choice?

[CtrlAltDel]

u obviously dont expect the girls to be mentally strong enough to handle the consequences of the acts done by them that with there agreement. killing the unborn for ur 'mistake' ......good....carry on.

considering that most of the girls go for abortion fearing the world and the trauma, thats what u`ve said, instead of facing the consequences of there actions I say the girl has no right what so ever to decide the fate of the unborn just because she is afraid of being traumatised. the girl obviously lacks the mental strength to face the world....

what are the options available for a girl in this situation.....if she choses to abort he child she will suffer trauma for the rest of her life....if she keeps it and is able to defend her stance then there is no reason for the world to not accept her. if she marrys the guy then well enuf.....

society is made by the people who are a part of it....ending the life of an unbron child just b`coz some people arond u dont accept it is stupid....

in a society where an unwed girl is seen as a blot on the "good" name of the family n society, do u think that girl wud dare to defend her pregnancy, go thru the gestation n deliver the child? even if the parents dont throw her out, the society wont let her live in peace. its not easy to tolerate mental torture day in n day out. the so called society wud constantly remind the girl thru out her life of her "sin". this is reality, atleast in india. everything about this society is not as rosy as u think it is. remember that the girl is already deeply guilt ridden and in a fragile mental state. she does not need any more nonsense and judgement from society.
marriage? well if it all ends in marriage as in movies, why talk of abortions? in situations like rape, is marriage the solution? the culprit should be hanged by his balls till his weight rips it off....
its easy to talk as a man and pass judgements, but for the girl involved its hell.

a mass of cells.....hmmm....arent the bodies of grownups full of cells.....arent cells suppsed to be keeping us alive? then how come a mass of cells doesnt have life in it?

ending life of an unborn is not an abuse?...even when it is a bunch of cells...arent u stopping it from being born??????? the bunch of cells stage is only one of the stages of its evolution which every person goes thru....how do u expect life to be absent at that stage???

in the early stages, the shape is just begnning to form. there is no developed nervous system, no circulatory system or any properly developed organ-system. there is nothing that can classify it as a distinct individual, except if u want to think of abstract concepts like "soul".the more the month-count increases, the more distinct the baby becomes, till finally its born.

put ur self in the society....would u taunt the kids????? was it in any way there mistake/or choice?

for every person who doesn't taunt the kids, there r 100s who do. maan, u think u r in utopia or something?

[akhilis2cool]

in a society where an unwed girl is seen as a blot on the "good" name of the family n society, do u think that girl wud dare to defend her pregnancy, go thru the gestation n deliver the child? even if the parents dont throw her out, the society wont let her live in peace. its not easy to tolerate mental torture day in n day out. the so called society wud constantly remind the girl thru out her life of her "sin". this is reality, atleast in india.

the so called society will not stop talking even after she aborts the child.....Logon ka kaam hai kehna UC. so if she has to face the same consequence irrespective what she chooses to do.... its better to keep the child, instead of killing it and sufering a life long trauma.

everything about this society is not as rosy as u think it is

if things were rosy this discussion would not been taking place.....I live in the same city and country as u do. its just that the points of view r different...not right or wrong.

remember that the girl is already deeply guilt ridden and in a fragile mental state. she does not need any more nonsense and judgement from society.

again the same thing....will the people accept her after she has aborted the child? no way...

marriage? well if it all ends in marriage as in movies, why talk of abortions?

marriage as in movies? in movies they show a women fighting to keep her child as well.....movies only reflect the reality.

in situations like rape, is marriage the solution? the culprit should be hanged by his balls till his weight rips it off....

Absolutely and completely agree with u.

its easy to talk as a man and pass judgements, but for the girl involved its hell.

i am in the same position as u r. the girl has to make the choice....i cant accept killing the child....its not his/her fault.

in the early stages, the shape is just begnning to form.

hows that happening? its happening on its own...which means there is some sort of energy in it thats driving its grwoth towards a full fledged human body. that energy is what i call Life.

there is no developed nervous system, no circulatory system or any properly developed organ-system

of course not....but it is developing..it is bound to be there u cant look at that situation in isolation.....

there is nothing that can classify it as a distinct individual, except if u want to think of abstract concepts like "soul".the more the month-count increases, the more distinct the baby becomes, till finally its born.

u mean to say for the first three months it is not a baby but after three months it begins to look like one and at the end of nine months it is a baby....wow....then shouldnt it be 6 months of pregnency instead of nine months?????

for every person who doesn't taunt the kids, there r 100s who do. maan, u think u r in utopia or something?

live life the way u want to....good and evil will always be there living along side each other....thats not utopia.......thats the world as it is. any way after the kid is in the world there will b some one to take care of him.... until and unless it dies or is killed by some one....

it is the society which has to take care of them and it the society is ot full of people who want the child to die.

[The Crackednut]

very interesting opinions here. some folks have put forth their views and have agreed to disdain from unnecessary bashing/flag-hoisting of Women's lib or Human Right's Issues. Finally, it is best for the individual to takcle the problem in his/her own method. The battle then becomes his/her's and thankfully not our's. What ticks me off the most is to see people loose cool and raise their Blood Pressure jus b'cos they read some random article on other people's problem.

-> Having emotions and "feeling sorry" is one thing.

-> Having emotions and "reacting by talking in loud voices about How The People Of The World Have Become So Immune To Other's Pain and Starting NGO's Which Misuse Donations For Selfish gains" is one thing.

-> And finally, Having emotions and "doing something by way of donations/support etc to the direct individual involved" is another thing.



One last statement that would probably nullify all the arguments on this board -

"Being born in the first place was not ur option. A person is alive b'cos of the actions of his elders. So finally, you've got no control whatsoever on the going-ons in ur life. So jus sit back, and enjoy the ride. Life's gonna suck anyhow" !!!

[azazel]

chk this out:

http://www.islam-online.net/fatwaapplication/english/display.asp?hFatwaID=5561