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by MLS » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:32 am

A lot of surfing channels lately and one cant miss the ITV and its music. They have conviniently got rid of ads and VJs etc but always end up playing a song you are in no mood to listen. Most of the time its Enrique or Titanic :roll: or Adnan Sami.



Coming to which .. I hate his songs. Him being fat, has nothing to do with my dislike for his songs. What I hate more than his songs are his videos. Why??



Well apart from being overly romantic, I find it pretty weird that he always chooses very slim and beautiful ladies. What kind of a message does that send the young (and restless) MTV viewing generation ?



Thats its ok for a guy to be obese but can still have a slim and pretty lady as a girl friend?



Also do you think it would make a great video if the lady he chose opposite was equally plump?



Or worse still do you think a video would have been so poular,(assuming music quality is the same) if we had a huge lady in the main role and seen her trying to woo an Arjun Rampal, Milind Sonam or the likes?
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:42 am

First of all lemme express my :shock: :shock: MLS started two topics in a span of one week. :o



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Well apart from being overly romantic, I find it pretty weird that he always chooses very slim and beautiful ladies. What kind of a message does that send the young (and restless) MTV viewing generation ?


Have you seen any rap songs? :P

Also do you think it would make a great video if the lady he chose opposite was equally plump?


I can only think of Annamikas (the short, chubby gal) songs with dozens of well built, half naked young men dancing. Well its a hit too.



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by malakpetmasala » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:43 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Bottom line, sex sells.




how much do u pay? :lol: :wink:
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:48 am

malakpetmasala wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Bottom line, sex sells.


how much do u pay? :lol: :wink:




Well rates vary I guess... but if you marry a gal you may get it for free.
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by malakpetmasala » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:50 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
malakpetmasala wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Bottom line, sex sells.


how much do u pay? :lol: :wink:


Well rates vary I guess... but if you marry a gal you may get it for free.




free? u must be kidding...... it would cocme with a million hidden costs. more than u pay when u are nt married. I suppose
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by MLS » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:57 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:First of all lemme express my :shock: :shock: MLS started two topics in a span of one week. :o

For a humble plebeian like me, posts dont just fall from the sky you know :)
And as a matter of principle, I do not make posts that contain only emoticons ;) even if that is what it takes to become a Lord, God, Deity etc etc

I can only think of Annamikas (the short, chubby gal) songs with dozens of well built, half naked young men dancing. Well its a hit too.

They were extras. She wasnt romancing any of them .. just checking em out :) if you were refering to a song 'Kahin karta hoga'

Bottom line, sex sells.


Of course, thats why we have titles like 'princess of pop'. I am pretty sure we will see Sharapova and the likes in the silver screen too.
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by lonewolf » Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:09 am

I liked the movie Shallow Hal, but many said its a lousy movie.. maybe you'll like it too MLS.
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:36 am

MLS wrote:And as a matter of principle, I do not make posts that contain only emoticons ;) even if that is what it takes to become a Lord, God, Deity etc etc
:shock: are u insinuating something MLS...:shock: :(
MLS wrote:I am pretty sure we will see Sharapova and the likes in the silver screen too.
droooooooooool... :P

tere muh mein ghee shakkar....i am waiting for the day when we see HER in an item number on screen....:D





on topic: like we all agree: sex sells...and when we say "sex", guys imagine slim and sexy gals and girls imagine slim n well built guys. Adnan Sami is not promoting himself as a sex object. its just his voice that is sexy and i suppose those girls are there to distract us from his weighty presence :D

it wud definitely look odd if he's prancing around with good looking men....;)
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by MLS » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:19 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote::shock: are u insinuating something MLS...:shock: :(

You bet I am ! :P

tere muh mein ghee shakkar....i am waiting for the day when we see HER in an item number on screen....:D

I am quite sure that day wouldnt be far off ...

on topic: like we all agree: sex sells...and when we say "sex", guys imagine slim and sexy gals and girls imagine slim n well built guys. Adnan Sami is not promoting himself as a sex object. its just his voice that is sexy and i suppose those girls are there to distract us from his weighty presence :D
it wud definitely look odd if he's prancing around with good looking men....;) :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P




If his voice is sexy, he shoudl be aware that his appearnce isnt. He can very well have another guy enact the role in those video and just show him intermittently doing the lip sync in the background?



All the girls are there to distract you guys from the weighty presence ... well where is the eye candy for us then ? :)
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by MLS » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:21 pm

If his voice is sexy,




Gimme a break!
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:28 pm

MLS wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote::shock: are u insinuating something MLS...:shock: :(
You bet I am ! :P
chaa! :( not fair to insult my hard work.....:cry:
MLS wrote:If his voice is sexy, he shoudl be aware that his appearnce isnt. He can very well have another guy enact the role in those video and just show him intermittently doing the lip sync in the background?
bechara, he wants his place in public spotlight...let him have it....
MLS wrote:All the girls are there to distract you guys from the weighty presence ... well where is the eye candy for us then ? :)
well...u girls have n-other music videos....:P....like anamika's for instance...;)
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If his voice is sexy,
Gimme a break!
cummon...he has a silky smooth n great voice....perfectly suits sexy numbers.....
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by MLS » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:46 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:bechara, he wants his place in public spotlight...let him have it....




Well maybe I just took the example of the a music video to drive home the point that even if a guy is obese it is okey for him to hope that he would someday marry an actress / beautiful lady



But why is it that when a plump woman has dreams of marrying a handsome guy so to speak she is ridiculed upon.



More often than not I have seen it happen in real life too. The media plays and active role in encouraging such prejudices and biases. You even have businesses doing that. For instance I for one would object to my daughter playing with a Barbie doll, its like telling her from a very young age that she ought to grow up similar to doll she is playing with or else she may not be loved or sought after.
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:00 pm

MLS wrote:...even if a guy is obese it is okey for him to hope that he would someday marry an actress / beautiful lady
But why is it that when a plump woman has dreams of marrying a handsome guy so to speak she is ridiculed upon.
AFAIK, an obese guy chasing a sexy girl is ridiculed too....:?
MLS wrote:More often than not I have seen it happen in real life too. The media plays and active role in encouraging such prejudices and biases. You even have businesses doing that. For instance I for one would object to my daughter playing with a Barbie doll, its like telling her from a very young age that she ought to grow up similar to doll she is playing with or else she may not be loved or sought after.
thats not good but kya karen? the advertisers know that the people are of certain mindset and they try to exploit the mindset.

take the reprehensible Fair n Lovely ads for example. tho we know that the advertisers are not being socially responsible, we have to remember that they are catering to a market that thinks exactly the way thats being portrayed in the ad. the targetted customers are people who agree with the ad, and this is known to the advertisers.



same is the case with rest of the media business, incl. music videos
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:28 am

I dunno if this post is related to topic... but tells you how media is influencing girls... wannabes.



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The Seedy Drive

(yes, I have seen it)



It was a decrepit hotel room in Manali. Punjabi bhangra was blaring in the background. The camcorder was hoisted on a tripod. Seventeen-year-old Anara Gupta was in bed with a husky young man she thought was a Mumbai film producer. Her cable operator "friend" had promised her the big guy could land her a role in a Bollywood film. Not for a minute could she have imagined that the footage of one hour and three minutes would end up as the prime source of entertainment for desi dudes on the web-as "Lala's sex vedio (sic)" presented by Desi Jatt. Or that it would be the hottest selling VCD in Jammu, available under the counter as the "exploits of Miss Jammu" for as little as Rs 300.





PICTURE SPEAK











MIS-TAKE: Gupta was arrested after her video (above) reached the Jammu Police



When the video finally reached the Jammu Police last month, it led to an investigation which gave Gupta the headlines she had always dreamed of, but not the kind of fame she was looking for. Now out on bail-Gupta is charged under the Indian Penal Code, the Information Technology Act, the Immoral Trafficking Act and the Cinematograph Act-she is virtually a prisoner in her tiny home which she shares with her mother and brothers. Her whole life, she thinks, is "finished''.



Gupta is not the only girl, growing up with stars in her eyes, who has found her way to stardom through sex-in Jammu, the media is already sniffing at another case of a beauty queen whose VCD is also doing brisk business. Across India, easily accessible technology is marrying rising aspirations to produce a succession of dreams-turned-to-dust. Be it in a small town in Kerala or in the heart of middle India, Raipur, young women are swapping hopes of having their names lit up in neon for either shame or worse, suicide. Take 17-year-old Saari S. Nair in Kilirur in central Kerala. Latha Nair, a seemingly respectable middle-aged woman, offered her a small part in a television serial provided she "obliged'' a few producers. Saari was allegedly sexually exploited and assaulted and last week, the teenager died of complications after a premature delivery. In the case of Anagha Nampoothiri, a temple priest's 14-year-old daughter in Kaviyoor, Kerala, the dream of a television career took an even deadlier turn. When a local newspaper mentioned her name in a sex racket, her entire family committed suicide.



Such is the extent of the phenomenon that filmmaker Mahesh Bhatt, no slouch in matters of either sex or controversy, is already hard at work on a script which details such a case: a young man whose honeymoon in a hotel in Alibaug, Maharashtra, is captured on the spycam, put on the Internet, and he is accused of being involved in a pornographic film racket. Bhatt says the mass media has whipped up such an appetite for glamour in average India that the only way it can be fulfilled is through crime or glamour (read sex). "This is not the horror of marginal women being sold or bought. It is the greedy middle class' lust for a lifestyle which says that to get something you have to give something,'' says Bhatt, admitting that recently he has been propositioned by two leading ladies. Not being sexually deprived, he says, he refused.



The willingness to do anything for fame often has bizarre twists in a nation where technology is making a lot of things possible. Ask Raipur IG D.M. Awasthi. Last month, a packet containing a CD was delivered to his office by courier. In it he found a graphic movie starring two youngsters-the girl would have been 17-taken with a spycam hidden in a cupboard. Awasthi raided the local video shops and even surreptitiously visited some houses and hotels to match the sofa sets in the film, but could come up with no details regarding the boy and the girl. A software dealer in Raipur, however, has the clips on his mobile phone and showed them to India Today. "The video was apparently made by the boy to show it to his friends but one of them passed around the CD and now half the town has it on the cell phones," he says.





PICTURE SPEAK





OTHER SIDE OF LIMELIGHT: Jaiin accused Bhandarkar of exploiting her



The fame thing is clearly delusional. In Mumbai, starlet Pretti Jaiin became newschannel fodder when she accused film director Madhur Bhandarkar of sexually exploiting her between January 2000 and December 2003. Her evidence: a series of SMS messages which she had stored in her mobile phone. Talk to Jaiin about her accusation and she insists that it has made her a "celebrity''. "I wrote to the President of India about the trial and he replied. I asked for an appointment with Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray and I got it within three days. I was invited to be the chief guest by over 15 organisations during the Navratri and Dussehra celebrations this year,'' she says.



It is a delusion that is fed by the media which has anointed stars such as Mallika Sherawat and now Priyanka Chopra, after her maneater act in Aitraaz. The bolder, the better, it seems. If a generation ago, being a beauty queen was the goal every Barbie girl nourished, now it is itemhood. Sometimes there is nothing like a sex scandal to power an actor's career. Jaiin's accusations were immediately followed up by the announcement that Bikau: On Sale, a year-old film starring her, had been picked up for release in an industry where blue films score a highly profitable strike rate in small-town India's cinema halls.



But not everyone has the luxury of saying no. After Gupta's arrest, the Jammu clip has become the Internet Indian's most sought-after download. "Everyone wanted to see it because it starred a former beauty queen,'' says Jay Neogi, a Los Angeles-based software consultant.



Gupta may well have become India's first homegrown hardcore porn starlet but that is not exactly what she meant when she told a news channel upon being crowned Miss Jammu in 2001: "Main life mein kuchh banna chahti hoon (I want to make it big in life)."
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by akhilis2cool » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:02 pm

in MTV fully faltoo they reffered to adnan sami as Badnam Asami :lol:

his first 2 albums were good. but the latest ones rubbish.
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:17 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:but the latest ones rubbish.
thanX for the warning! i wanted to buy it....but now i will first check it out carefully...some bakra or the other wud surely buy it....:D
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by akhilis2cool » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:20 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
akhilis2cool wrote:but the latest ones rubbish.
thanX for the warning! i wanted to buy it....but now i will first check it out carefully...some bakra or the other wud surely buy it....:D
theres tooo much of love in his songs the rhythm...lyrics...all seem to be a repeat of his previous songs.
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